Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) is built on the idea that two things can be true at the same time—an approach that often brings relief to patients who feel trapped in all-or-nothing thinking. In this conversation, psychiatrist Dr. Brandon Gimbel and therapist Mindy Wilkerson explore the core DBT concept of the dialectic (“both-and” thinking), the role of mindfulness as the pause, and how checking the facts can interrupt looping narratives that create suffering.

This short conversation offers a clear, practical look at how DBT, mindfulness, and psychological flexibility work together to support meaningful change.

I tried to film a serious video about thoughtful psychiatry.

My kids had other plans.