Brandon Gimbel (00:00)

You said something that I think might give people some pause. You said 30 minutes. I know if I were just starting, 30 minutes would give me pause. That sounds like a long time when people are used to doing things in two or maybe five minutes. How do you respond to people who resist the idea or have concerns about the idea?

Carl Jerome (00:20)

Well, I don't threaten them in the beginning with 30 minutes. I suggest that we start with someplace between two and five minutes and I ask them how much they can do. And if they offer more, they'll say, well, I could do 15. I said, Well, why don't we start with five or six? I had one man who said, I can't do this. And I said, can you do two minutes? And he said, yes. I said, okay, so let's do two minutes and each week let's add one more minute. And he called me and said, I got to 20 minutes and I just went to 30. I just can't do this anymore that slowly. So it really is just a matter of getting practice, but we started two to five minutes and then we do that for a couple of weeks and then maybe we'll go to 10. And each person is different and I want to be respectful of that. But we can eventually get to half an hour.

Brandon Gimbel (01:03)

What do you think it is that is intimidating about sitting for 30 minutes or for an hour?

Carl Jerome (01:07)

I just think that the whole way our body and mind tell us to live is to be doing things. I don't want to do nothing, but you're not doing nothing. You are actually focusing and training your mind to be more comfortable sitting and not doing. We're used to doing, not to being. We don't like being. We're most comfortable when we're doing something distracted.

Brandon Gimbel (01:27)

Yes.